Everyone has wished for something. From a new puppy as a pre-teen to fulfilling the lifelong dream of meeting the right person or hitting the lottery. Some of us pray, some of us work hard, and some of us just sit back, eat Cheetos, and wish. You know who you are. 

But there are some people that take matters into their own hands and look to get ahead and win using anything they can.

 Not all are nefarious; in fact, the ones we see on TV are as far away from the real thing as anyone could get. Most quietly practice their ancient and sometimes more modern art in the solace of their home, never bragging.

 Much is unknown in popular culture and modern lore about what and how a real WITCH practices this ancient art. So tonight, we are asking those questions and more…

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Witching Hour

[00:00:00] Paul G Newton: Everyone has wished for something. From a new puppy as a preteen to fulfilling the lifelong dream of meeting the right person or hitting the lottery. Some of us pray, some of us work hard and some of us just sit back, eat Cheetos and wish you know who you are, but there are some people that take matters into their own hands and look to get.

[00:00:42] Paul G Newton: And win using anything they can now, not all of them are nefarious. In fact, the ones we see on TV are as far away from the real thing, as anyone could get most quietly practiced are ancient and sometimes more modern [00:01:00] art in the solace of their own home. Never bragging much is unknown in popular culture and modern lore about what and how a real witch practices, their ancient art.

[00:01:13] Paul G Newton: So tonight we are asking those questions. And more.

[00:01:27] Andrea Smith: So this is Andrea and I've got lots and lots of questions that have been followed up through my actually one of my children had listened to the very first podcast pod that Paul did and book te

[00:01:40] Stephanie: cards, the

[00:01:41] Andrea Smith: te card. Yes. And so she's 13 and had lots of questions. And so I'm reaching out to the first person that Paul interviewed.

[00:01:51] Andrea Smith: So why don't you stiff Vaughn introduce your, so stuff.

[00:01:55] Stephanie: Avon, introduce yourself. My voice is

[00:01:57] Paul G Newton: trashed. So that's why I'm like, [00:02:00]

[00:02:02] Andrea Smith: so I really appreciate you being open to coming on and let me rattle off some questions and probably answer some more questions. I have a child that's. Very open. I've raised all my children to be open and ask questions for things they don't understand.

[00:02:18] Andrea Smith: And especially religion to try to learn about it, to be more open and understanding how other people think and feel. So that could be more open minded when they in the world. And so when she first listened to it, she had a ton of questions, but she was a little shy to come on herself. She doesn't, I don't know she's what can I say, 13 and doesn't wanna be on the air.

[00:02:37] Andrea Smith: So I thought I would ask for her. So my first question that she was extremely curious about that she wanted to know if you had insight on was oui boards. Is there any safe way to play with them?

[00:02:50] Stephanie: Okay. A protection spell prayer. I think a lot of Christians who do you know, there are a [00:03:00] lot of witches who are Christians.

[00:03:01] Stephanie: They will say the Lord's prayer before they read terror, before they do the oui board before they do whatever I people have got to realize about the oui board is that it's a tool. There's nothing in the board that's that where the guests are like, ah, there's a board, let's go what you're doing it is a tool and you're putting your energy into that tool and you're trying to attract the entities that may be around you.

[00:03:35] Stephanie: Okay. who are willing to speak to you?

[00:03:38] Andrea Smith: Okay. So this is just my past experience. I was explaining this to Paul earlier that growing up, obviously my mother's side of the family was high core Baptist and my grandmother was a lovely kind. Open minded, just extremely wonderful woman. And we were having a sleepover, had a bunch of friends over my parents, went [00:04:00] out on a date night and it was just her watching us.

[00:04:01] Andrea Smith: And we were, was like 12 of us girls. And one of the girls brought over Ji board and I never really messed with it before. And we're playing within giggling and having fun of my grandmother walks in and she just never, ever cusses or gets mad

[00:04:16] Stephanie: or anything. What the fuck are

[00:04:17] Paul G Newton: you girls doing?

[00:04:18] Stephanie: Is that what, what she did?

[00:04:19] Stephanie: Kind

[00:04:19] Andrea Smith: of something like that. She picks up the oui board and throws it cuz it's around the holiday time it's around my birthday and throws it in the fire and we're all like, oh wow. Like horrified. We're just staring at.

[00:04:33] Stephanie: You had to buy a new one. I had to explain to these kids' parents that my grandmother was not happy by the oui board and I had to replace it and it was embarrassing, but she sat out and like basically told me that messing with that is bad.

[00:04:49] Andrea Smith: You don't know what you're going to do. You have no idea what you're going to conjure or bring in the house. You don't mess with that. And she's actually right, because there is the right way in the wrong way [00:05:00] to use the weed you

[00:05:00] Andrea Smith: board. I don't think HaBO or whoever makes it exactly puts the directions on the right way or the wrong way to do that.

[00:05:06] Andrea Smith: No, then they

[00:05:07] Stephanie: don't. No, they don't. And back then when they did it it was a game, it was a parlor trick or so they thought was, they didn't realize. We humans. And you've probably heard this there's a study that spin out that we actually do exchange energy with each other.

[00:05:24] Stephanie: And I try to

[00:05:27] Paul G Newton: exchange energy with Andrea, whatever I possibly

[00:05:30] Stephanie: can. Oh my God. Stop. oh, you

[00:05:33] Paul G Newton: mean? Sorry.

[00:05:34] Stephanie: Oh my gosh.

[00:05:36] Andrea Smith: He is gotta put something in there, but oh yeah. I know. I've always told my kids, I don't want that stuff in the house because you don't know what you're doing and I don't know what I'm doing.

[00:05:45] Andrea Smith: And I don't know if it's real or not, so we're not gonna have it in the house, but and

[00:05:49] Stephanie: you've got to, and you've got to search it out, ask the questions and a lot of witches won't deal with them because they don't feel they're strong enough. When they pass a protection [00:06:00] spell or or they do their prayers, they don't feel they're strong enough to continue that energy because you have to hold that intent and keep that in intent, going.

[00:06:10] Stephanie: Through the duration of the use of the oui board. I think

[00:06:14] Andrea Smith: for my kid, she very much wants to talk to my father. Who's passed away and she's always asked me if we get a oui board and we know what we're doing. Can we talk to grandpa? And I'm like, I can't answer that. And I said, and I would be afraid to even try that, but she misses my father.

[00:06:34] Andrea Smith: And I think she's just reaching out to want to be able to talk to him again, like anyone who's still getting used to someone who's passed and he's been passed away for several years, but she very much had fond memories of him. So I think she's just curious because it 13, 12, a little sleepover games and stuff like that.

[00:06:55] Andrea Smith: Someone brings over oui board. She just, and I've taught [00:07:00] them. You don't mess with this kind of stuff, cuz it could be real or not. Let's not chance it let's not bring it in the house. . She was just curious if there was a way that she could like mess around and talk to somebody and learn some stuff and it's not gonna necessarily be like bad.

[00:07:15] Stephanie: Sure. You wanna talk to a medium? Okay. You talked to the medium

[00:07:19] Paul G Newton: last week.

[00:07:21] Stephanie: Oh gosh.

[00:07:21] Paul G Newton: And I'm sure he meant well, but it was interesting.

[00:07:24] Andrea Smith: I have 27

[00:07:26] Stephanie: lives and I have 30.

[00:07:27] Paul G Newton: What? 7

[00:07:28] Stephanie: 34. Yeah. He's I need to talk to, I need to listen to that one.

[00:07:33] Paul G Newton: He said I had time of my 34th life because I can't get it.

[00:07:36] Stephanie: Yeah. That's what he said. That's not what it is. Each lifetime has a different lesson.

[00:07:42] Paul G Newton: I don't know. He said we gotta learn to be good people or we gotta repeat it. We're destined to repeat.

[00:07:47] Andrea Smith: And he made it seem like Paul was having issues.

[00:07:49] Stephanie: If you take a look at everybody's life, people all go through something different.

[00:07:54] Stephanie: I like my women too much. Yeah. Oh gosh. Um, Like I lost I lost my [00:08:00] grandmother when she, when I was 11, I lost my father when I was 22. I lost my first husband when I was 27. So I I went through the gamut there pretty early on in life as to losing people through death and not everybody's done that some of my friends they've been married and divorced five different times and their first husband's still kicking around, yeah. Not that they talk to 'em a whole lot, but they are. So it's everybody has got to learn. How to deal with these type of things. Go

[00:08:41] Stephanie: ahead. Yeah, and I honestly, I haven't gotten the I think with the death of my mother, believe it or not that happened last year. I was actually able to of use those, some of the things that I had learned [00:09:00] from the three original death that really affected my life and I put those into place.

[00:09:05] Stephanie: So it was a little bit easier. Still rough, still hard, still cried a lot. But it was a little bit easier, so Melissa's other question was cuz on the lines of this is do you have the ability to talk to someone who's passed and if so, is that not a common thing for someone who has.

[00:09:24] Andrea Smith: And is I, this is what her exact words were, which talents I thought that was cute. How she I'm sure it was

[00:09:32] Stephanie: witch

[00:09:32] Paul G Newton: talents or bitch

[00:09:33] Stephanie: talents, witch talents. I like that. I like that. Stephanie has

[00:09:37] Paul G Newton: a lot of bitch talents

[00:09:38] Stephanie: too. Nah, be nice. No, yes, I do. See, I told you, she

[00:09:42] Andrea Smith: I thought that was cute how she worded that.

[00:09:45] Andrea Smith: I was like, okay, that's very sweet and kind. She, I

[00:09:49] Stephanie: like that witch talents. I like that. I really do. Okay. So we called them declares. Okay. love E Claires. Buoyance Claire audience, [00:10:00] Claire. Let me see if I can't pull up the the ones with the cream in the middle. Those are

[00:10:06] Stephanie: so good.

[00:10:07] Stephanie: No, those are E Claires, not the Claires. A little bit different. I think he just

[00:10:13] Andrea Smith: loves messing with you.

[00:10:14] Stephanie: Yeah. that's okay. I'll tell him the fuck off here in a little bit.

[00:10:22] Stephanie: I think you just did. I think I did. Yeah.

[00:10:29] Stephanie: let's see. Oh, okay. Four players of intuition. Five, you saw the audience knows

[00:10:33] Paul G Newton: I'm having dinner and drinking vodka. because

[00:10:36] Stephanie: I'm sick. Yeah. He's not feeling

[00:10:39] Andrea Smith: so hot.

[00:10:40] Stephanie: Yeah. Yeah. I under I get that. So let's talk about the Claires real quick. He Claires.

[00:10:49] Paul G Newton: Um, No, that's right. Naughty clicks. Sorry, stop

[00:10:53] Andrea Smith: talking about pastry.

[00:10:54] Andrea Smith: I can't have it. You're hungry.

[00:10:55] Stephanie: So you have okay. I'm looking for the definitions. I never can [00:11:00] remember the definitions. So there's Claire fascinating radio

[00:11:04] Andrea Smith: right now. So I guess I should put a disclaimer out here for everybody. Some of these questions you have to understand for the audience is coming from someone who's young and for someone. I allow to ask openly, she's not meeting any type of insult to anyone. So if anyone out there is getting upset by some of the questions, she's just, we come at this at really Eddie wanting to

[00:11:27] Stephanie: learn.

[00:11:28] Paul G Newton: It's tough for me because Stephanie knows how skeptical, super skeptical I am about most of this stuff. So it's always hard for me to talk about this and I try to be open about it, but it's like

[00:11:40] Andrea Smith: really well, for me, I'm not really good at being 100% politically, correct. I just just say what I think.

[00:11:46] Andrea Smith: And the best of intentions and being honest and even admit my ignorance, but it doesn't always come across very perfect for the me too movement. I think a lot of her question stems from cuz she sees these things about [00:12:00] People able to talk to the dead and she's listened to a lot of stuff from the Victorian era where some of this stuff was a hoax for lack of a better term.

[00:12:11] Andrea Smith: Some of it was

[00:12:12] Stephanie: a hoax. The Fox sisters were completely fake.

[00:12:15] Andrea Smith: The Fox sisters. She's taken a huge interest in kind of this stuff, cuz she's very curious. And so she's kinda but mom, the Fox sisters were founded to be wrong with those other people that they

[00:12:27] Paul G Newton: were faking the whole time they had rock on a string.

[00:12:30] Andrea Smith: But then again, my son has some ability to see things sometimes that. Are not necessarily the

[00:12:38] Paul G Newton: Fox sisters set off the entire movement of the of that in the late 18 hundreds, early 19 hundreds. Yeah. It was the Fox sisters and they was all fake

[00:12:50] Stephanie: during the 18 hundreds you had Astair Carley.

[00:12:53] Stephanie: Yes. And he was a Clair, the Sherlock Holmes

[00:12:59] Paul G Newton: guy

[00:12:59] Stephanie: [00:13:00] too. He was a medium, what's his name? Sherlock Holmes. What was his name? The guy who wrote it. Oh,

[00:13:06] Stephanie: Alice, just Crawley. That

[00:13:08] Paul G Newton: was not the guy who wrote Sherlock Holmes.

[00:13:11] Stephanie: Oh

[00:13:11] Andrea Smith: gosh. I can't remember

[00:13:13] Stephanie: Sir.

[00:13:13] Paul G Newton: Arthur cord and Doyle, sir. Arthur.

[00:13:16] Paul G Newton: Yeah. Cohen Doyle was really into it and Adini was like, it's not real. And he's it is real. And they fought about it all the time.

[00:13:25] Stephanie: It's kind interesting. And you do have people who who say, oh, I'm Clara, William I'm blah, blah, blah. I can. And then they start to try to read you and they're not they're, I don't know who the hell they're talking about.

[00:13:41] Stephanie: So how can you tell who's real and who's not

[00:13:44] Andrea Smith: Cuz there's

[00:13:48] Stephanie: lots when, okay. So when, okay, so let's say you go you go to a medium, right? Okay. And or Clare point whatever. [00:14:00] And you ask them I I'm here. I want some advice. I do wanna talk to some of my ancestors, blah, blah. First of all, you don't tell them who you just a

[00:14:13] Andrea Smith: sense.

[00:14:14] Andrea Smith: You're pretty generic.

[00:14:16] Stephanie: Don't tell you want to know. Okay. Okay. Okay. And then they should be able to, if they are real, they should be able to say, okay, let me hold your hand. Or did you bring me an object of the person you want to connect with? Okay. Okay. And make sure that object does not have a name or picture or whatever.

[00:14:42] Stephanie: Okay. Makes sense. And you give that to them. Okay. And they should be able to read the energy. They should be able to feel the energy that helps them connect with the person who has passed on so to places and they

[00:14:56] Andrea Smith: should be able, does places [00:15:00] have energy? Does like more than just objects have energy?

[00:15:04] Stephanie: Oh yeah.

[00:15:05] Stephanie: You have places that have energy for sure. You've heard of Lee lines, right? Lee lay lines, Lee lines, lay lines lay lines

[00:15:15] Paul G Newton: are lay lines, latitude and longitude kind of stuff.

[00:15:18] Stephanie: No, they, I kind sorry, but not really. They intersect at certain points in the longitude and latitude scale.

[00:15:27] Stephanie: Yeah. Oh, okay.

[00:15:28] Andrea Smith: Okay. Map. I have heard of some of this on some stuff we've listened to.

[00:15:33] Stephanie: You feel like stone hinge. Yes. Is one, one place. If you go, if you look at some of the rooms or go to some of the rooms outside of Athens in Greece or even here in the United States and you have ancient cultures who really thrived or whatever, you'll find that they actually were living close or very near to a lay line.

[00:15:57] Andrea Smith: Is there like some map you can see where the lay lines [00:16:00] are or is it just Yeah, actually you can Google that really. And they will show. Yeah. And they will show you

[00:16:05] Andrea Smith: where they are. So who like figures this out as just like some lay land, lay line expert guy that goes out there and be like, I'm gonna make

[00:16:11] Stephanie: me a map, this name.

[00:16:13] Stephanie: I think I think it's just happened over the years okay. So like my uncles were water witches, and those are people who go out here with little twigs Ash twigs or sticks or whatever the vis or rods or whatever.

[00:16:28] Andrea Smith: Oh, is it the rods? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My grandmother was telling me something about that, that she swore by it cuz something, her childhood figuring out where some water's at on some property out here in PI Ridge and somebody came out and was able to figure it out and they figured out water.

[00:16:44] Stephanie: So yeah. And that's where, that's how they used to determine where to put their all of my great uncles could do this. Which is really fascinating to me. I never could do it. I don't know what the deal was now. Finally, I asked my great aunt one day, I said, can you [00:17:00] do that? She said she said, no, I can't.

[00:17:02] Stephanie: She said, none of the women in our family can do that. She says, but we do other things.

[00:17:07] Andrea Smith: So it makes me wonder, I said, if I had to have my well drill, just to have somebody out there with that kind of thing versus paying the people that drill

[00:17:14] Stephanie: my Yeah. Rather do some real survey and

[00:17:17] Andrea Smith: I'm just

[00:17:18] Stephanie: saying they're still going survey you still going to do test drilling.

[00:17:25] Stephanie: Yeah. Period. Yeah. I'm just, but you get water, you get a real, you get one of those and you can go to any co-op here in Northwest Arkansas and talk to the good old boys over there and you'll ask them who, water witches. And they'll be able to tell you, they'll give you a list. And these are people who were tried true and tested.

[00:17:47] Stephanie: I thought

[00:17:48] Paul G Newton: water witches were like people who could swim under water for an extended period of time before we had scuba gear.

[00:17:54] Stephanie: No. So those are just people who practice a lot. so [00:18:00]

[00:18:00] Andrea Smith: these people that are like water witches, did they like, is this a talent? That's just acquired? Do they develop it or do they learn it?

[00:18:08] Andrea Smith: Is it just one of those things?

[00:18:09] Stephanie: I think a lot of people are just born with it. If you look at witchcraft, you

[00:18:14] Paul G Newton: the me too movement, just say it.

[00:18:16] Stephanie: If you look at telepathy, pre cognition, mediumship, tele nieces Porsche deportation clear audience Claire sentient you'll find that this tends to run in families.

[00:18:32] Stephanie: One person may have it a little bit more than others. See

[00:18:35] Paul G Newton: I think it's true because if you measure the amount, when you go back to my father and my grandfather and you measure the amount of as ishness, it does run in families. Oh my

[00:18:47] Stephanie: gosh. What?

[00:18:49] Paul G Newton: It's a talent.

[00:18:51] Stephanie: Okay.

[00:18:52] Andrea Smith: I got a question. Okay. Okay. When my son was little squirrel he would be able to tell me things.

[00:18:59] Andrea Smith: And I would just [00:19:00] ignore him about certain things he was seeing, cuz granted he's five, six, everybody sees like things and has imaginary friends or whatnot. And then my father passed away when he was oh, elementary school and took care of the funeral, came back a couple weeks later, my son came up to me and he told me the exact conversation I had the last time I saw my dad the exact thing.

[00:19:30] Andrea Smith: Okay. Word for word. Him. It's just my father and I in the room. There was nobody else. The kids were actually visiting with their father at that time. So it was only my father and I in the house. And he said the conversation word for word. And I looked at my son and the hair in the back of my neck was like standing up.

[00:19:47] Andrea Smith: And I said, how do you know that conversation? He goes, grandpa told me, he goes, I see grandpa everywhere. I was like, who else do you see? I'm thinking he's dealing with the death. He's, I'm trying to [00:20:00] play it off because I don't want to believe that my son can remember the conversation that would've had, that only two him.

[00:20:06] Andrea Smith: And I would only know you say it runs in families. So yes. How do you know where the source comes from? Because he doesn't talk about it now. He's 17. Every now and then I ask him, I was like, Hey, do you have any, I'm trying to be open and let them be themselves and not try to be judgemental or try.

[00:20:25] Andrea Smith: Maybe he's

[00:20:26] Stephanie: Okay. So when you have a child, very young telling you this type thing. And I don't know if he's ever had a conversation with someone you said, oh, this doesn't happen. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Probably not. Children can shut it down. Okay. That doesn't mean that they, that doesn't mean they lost it.

[00:20:48] Stephanie: It doesn't mean they've shut it down. Cause when we, we

[00:20:50] Andrea Smith: took a tour, the Crescent hotel in Eureka Springs, which anybody who's around here knows it's haunted when he took oh yeah. When he took the tour, he couldn't [00:21:00] finish the tour. He got halfway through the tour, ran outside and threw up everywhere. Yep. And he's and he's in, first

[00:21:08] Stephanie: of all, he's an impact.

[00:21:09] Stephanie: He goes back. Impact feels. Yes, feelings of other people's spirits, whatever. And when those energies become too much first anxiety hit headaches, hit stomachs, hit it is a complete I've had this happen to me. You want for me, I want to go to my bed, put my head under the pillow and go to sleep.

[00:21:33] Stephanie: Cause I asked him, I was like,

[00:21:35] Andrea Smith: be very overwhelming. Yeah. Cause I said, are you okay? Cuz I, I was like, what is going on? He's throwing up everywhere. And I'm trying to everyone's looking at me like, oh, was it P soup? No, it was not P soup, but it was horrifying to MIG. Cause I'm thinking he's embarrassed.

[00:21:50] Andrea Smith: I'm thinking, everyone's thinking your kid sick. Why the hell did you bring him here? And he's mom, I can't do this. And I was. Are you alright? He goes, I can't do this. I was like, okay, we'll sit here and [00:22:00] let everybody else finish the tour. And they finish the tour. And I was like, are you, I, are you all right?

[00:22:05] Andrea Smith: And he's I just, I see everybody. I see everything. I see everybody talking to me and I try, I don't see it. And I don't want to be one of those parents. That's I guess, an absolute bitch and denies it and is rude. I try to be open minded and to the point where if my kids are having issues, they can come to me with anything.

[00:22:26] Andrea Smith: Even if they're seeing, I don't know, a giant gummy bear in the corner of the room.

[00:22:30] Stephanie: Purple dildo. I hope not. Do you ? Yeah, that would be, I'd hate to see it after a

[00:22:37] Andrea Smith: lot. I would, it's 40 feet long who has room for that. I don't even wanna go there with my kids. I'll be like, okay let's change the subject Here's the deal.

[00:22:49] Stephanie: And so he still has his powers very much. So the problem is he hasn't had any training. He hasn't had any training to put up the barriers to keep some of that [00:23:00] energy from coming at him at 150 miles an hour.

[00:23:04] Andrea Smith: Cause okay. Yeah. Makes sense. Cuz I've asked him as he's gotten older, I was like, are you okay with that?

[00:23:10] Andrea Smith: And he's mom, I have to shut it off. He goes, I just have to like, not talk to them. He goes, I just don't know what to make of it. He goes, I think I'm crazy. I was like, you're not crazy. No, he's not. No,

[00:23:21] Stephanie: he is not crazy

[00:23:22] Andrea Smith: at all. All I said to him was I don't see it, but I believe there's things in this world that maybe we're just not all of us are meant to know or see.

[00:23:32] Andrea Smith: So how do

[00:23:32] Stephanie: you

[00:23:33] Paul G Newton: explain somebody? Stephanie you've told me for a long time. And you know that when I walk into a room, it clears out if there was a spirit that somebody was seeing. When I walk into that room, there's nothing

[00:23:47] Andrea Smith: they're probably afraid

[00:23:47] Paul G Newton: of you. Yes. Everybody's afraid of Paul of course.

[00:23:51] Stephanie: I don't know. I We would actually have to have you walk in, in a very busy room with [00:24:00] people and with ghost or entities have a medium there, or a clairvoyant there, or someone who has clairvoyance, Claire audience Claire mediumship, whatever, and somebody with those abilities.

[00:24:18] Stephanie: Yeah. And they can tell you if the ghost have left or not.

[00:24:21] Andrea Smith: Let's try that with my house.

[00:24:23] Stephanie: They're never there when I'm

[00:24:24] Andrea Smith: there. Here's an example of what I'm talking about. I call my kids and I laugh

[00:24:27] Stephanie: and call.

[00:24:27] Paul G Newton: I think your kids just take your shit and you call it ghosts in the microwave, but now they just, they're just stealing your shit.

[00:24:37] Andrea Smith: Hey, it's a real story here. 500 cats. It's not 500

[00:24:41] Stephanie: cats. Okay. 485 cows. Hear this story. Hu. Paul dam. It

[00:24:46] Andrea Smith: okay. The goes to the microwave. I've had this microwave for a long time. I hate microwaves. And so it was unplugged, and it starts turning on. Okay. I got freaked out because it [00:25:00] is not plugged in and it is on.

[00:25:03] Andrea Smith: so well, okay.

[00:25:05] Stephanie: So you've got someone trying to get your attention,

[00:25:07] Andrea Smith: so I don't know what to think of it. I thought maybe I'll plug it in and maybe it'll shut off. I don't know. I don't know what to do. I, it's not like there's instruction books, so I plug it in. Have you ever had your lights?

[00:25:17] Stephanie: Have you ever had your lights flicker?

[00:25:19] Stephanie: Oh, hell all the time. Repeat. Yeah. But you're in

[00:25:21] Paul G Newton: electricity as crap to your house. And that electrical system is quite bad, but the

[00:25:28] Andrea Smith: thing was not plugged in. I know,

[00:25:30] Paul G Newton: but your lights flickering could just be because it's Tuesday.

[00:25:35] Stephanie: That's your place? Actually, Paul,

[00:25:37] Paul G Newton: her brother is an electrician and he verified

[00:25:40] Stephanie: that some of the wirings not the great,

[00:25:41] Andrea Smith: most of the wiring is substandard in the plugins.

[00:25:44] Andrea Smith: That's why.

[00:25:45] Stephanie: Okay. It does not. That doesn't matter if it was substandard and it wasn't gonna work. The damn lights wouldn't come on,

[00:25:51] Andrea Smith: but why would you explain the microwave? Like turning on without it being plugged in? So I plug it in thinking, I'll turn it off thinking I'm I don't know what I'm doing. I [00:26:00] don't know what to do in this situation.

[00:26:01] Andrea Smith: It won't shut off. I'm unplugging it, plugging it back in. It's still turning on. And the thing is still spinning around. I'm hitting the buttons everywhere we take at

[00:26:09] Stephanie: base wanting your

[00:26:10] Andrea Smith: attention. We take the microwave and we hurdle it outside because I don't know what else to do. and we look at each other and we're all pet, like just dumbfounded and we don't really talk about it.

[00:26:24] Andrea Smith: But the crazy thing is after that small things around the house started being misplaced. and it sounds crazy, but I was making my daughter's birthday cake and she wanted blue frosting and I had white frosting and I was gonna use the blue food dye and I was gonna make it blue, just like she wanted, had it up on the counter.

[00:26:46] Andrea Smith: It was there, standing there. And the next day it's gone and I can't find it anywhere in the house. And we turned the kitchen and everything upside down looking for this, cuz I thought I was losing my mind. Pluto ate it. [00:27:00] No Pluto did not eat it. Pluto's my dog. He eats

[00:27:03] Stephanie: everything well, he didn't eat this.

[00:27:04] Stephanie: All right. So

[00:27:05] Andrea Smith: green poop, two weeks later, the dye that I was missing is sitting on the counter, right where I left it and I seriously thought I was losing my mind. Things have disappeared. Like my glasses had a set of glasses, always put 'em on a bedside table before I go to bed. They were gone for two years.

[00:27:26] Andrea Smith: Wow. And so we found them all of a sudden. Underneath something. Now that could, might be easily explained cats possibly, or the dog is carrying

[00:27:35] Paul G Newton: him around. Possibly. He was carrying around my socks the other

[00:27:38] Andrea Smith: day, but it was shoved up in the corner of one of our den underneath something. It's the strangest place for them to end up for an animal to put them

[00:27:47] Stephanie: of.

[00:27:47] Stephanie: We had, yeah I I would say so too with, unless they were trying to bury it, but I don't see them doing that. It was literally

[00:27:53] Andrea Smith: underneath something that I don't know how an animal can necessarily place them there. [00:28:00] It's

[00:28:00] Stephanie: just weird. Yeah. You gotta take a look at and so here's the deal.

[00:28:04] Stephanie: You have entities, spirits, wherever you wanna call, 'em attached to your land or attached to you. It could be your family. It could be maybe somebody who lived there once before on the property that you live. There's lots and lots of explanations it's he could've gone to an antique store, picked up, bought an old stool and the guy he used to sit on at stool every evening when he came home from work is still attached to that damn

[00:28:33] Andrea Smith: stool.

[00:28:34] Andrea Smith: Cause it's weird. Cuz the daughter that's asking all these questions was like, mom, we either brought something home or we have acquired something or maybe it's grandpa or someone's having fun with us and I'm

[00:28:44] Stephanie: try. Yeah. If she's I don't think there's not a human having fun with you.

[00:28:49] Stephanie: It's not a human, but you have a ghost who's wanting your attention,

[00:28:54] Andrea Smith: but I'm a pretty scientific fact person [00:29:00] and it wasn't until I broke. Okay. Then tell me something. Okay. How much does the sole weigh.

[00:29:08] Andrea Smith: How much is a soul weigh, zero as a weigh, anything, but having these experiences really after losing my father has opened my mind a little bit to the possibility of things outside of what I can see and taste and feel and rationalize scientifically that I'm okay, there's probably a lot of things I just don't know and let's just embrace it.

[00:29:30] Andrea Smith: So it's, Paul May disagree with me on that, but even after my dad passed, he used to wear old spice cologne. Which makes me car sick. Yeah, it does make you car sick. Thanks to your dad. But it was like something. I bought him every year for Christmas. When I was a little girl, I don't know if he liked, he smelled it.

[00:29:50] Andrea Smith: I smell it every now and then. And it's strong.

[00:29:53] Stephanie: If my dad has been anywhere near your house, you're gonna smell it because he spills it all over his car. [00:30:00] Your dad, he literally spills it in his car. Here's Andrea. That is your dad.

[00:30:04] Andrea Smith: I figured as much. And it's like overwhelming and not everybody could smell it in the house it's just weird.

[00:30:12] Andrea Smith: Like I've asked my kids do you see things outside? Trying to figure out there are times in the house where like the other day we were, something was misplaced and I'm standing there in the house. And I look up at the ceiling like, okay, goes to the microwave. This is bullshit. Knock it off.

[00:30:27] Andrea Smith: give me my shit back. This isn't funny. And a couple days it'll show up. It's just, it's weird. You

[00:30:36] Stephanie: can, okay. They can hear you. They can see you. They will try to talk to you and get your attention. Okay. Not everybody can hear them. Not everybody can see them. I have always. Okay. So when I was a child, like I was telling you, I've always thought that I was playing with gods.

[00:30:57] Stephanie: Okay. With what he has a whole [00:31:00] different that yeah. It's a whole different, no playing with

[00:31:02] Paul G Newton: what? I didn't quite understand.

[00:31:03] Stephanie: Gods GS little G. Okay. But there were also spirits there too. Okay. And I'm sure family that I whatever. And I imaginary friend who I had till I was three and on my third birthday, he turned around and says, Stephanie, I can't come over tomorrow.

[00:31:23] Stephanie: And I'm like, why not? And he said, I've gotta go someplace, but I'll see you later. And I actually believe I've met him in real life. But I truly believe he was a soul and he was ready to be born. And I just happened to see him we hung out together, maybe in another region. I don't know.

[00:31:45] Stephanie: I don't this is the thing we don't, know's 35th life we can we can your eyes, all we want to, we can only talk about what we are experiencing

[00:31:57] Andrea Smith: now. It's interesting. And go ahead. Sorry. I didn't [00:32:00] interrupt

[00:32:00] Stephanie: and okay. And and try to figure it out from there. Now, your experiences are fairly typical.

[00:32:10] Stephanie: You have somebody who has passed or several people who have passed. Who wants to talk to you? Who wants to get with you? Who want to tell you something? God only knows what get rid of thats, what they want. Dumbass guy that puts you on the internet with your voice. He's an idiot. The interesting thing

[00:32:27] Andrea Smith: they tell.

[00:32:28] Andrea Smith: Yeah, the thing after though happened with the microwave, I called the rabbi. And I was like, Hey, you gotta come out and bless my house. And they're like, why? And I was like, just come out and bless my house. And he comes out that she does actually from Springfield at the time. Nice comes out and she's she have to pay her.

[00:32:45] Andrea Smith: No. She came out and she stood on the porch and she's I can't do this. And I'm like, why? She goes, I don't feel very good. And I'm looking at her and I was like, okay. And she goes, it's not bad. She goes, I'm not gonna Sage this house. And I was like, why? [00:33:00] And she never answered why I go, is it because

[00:33:02] Stephanie: she's an, she is an impath.

[00:33:04] Stephanie: She is a medium. She is, she has the gift. And

[00:33:07] Andrea Smith: she goes isn't bad. And I was like, thinking, is it bad? Is saging this gonna make it worse? I was like, I don't know. We are, when we're told with the church, if we're having weird funky stuff going on, we call you, you come out, you bless the house, it's all over.

[00:33:20] Andrea Smith: And that's not true, and she's more or less said, it's true for Catholics. You. She just said that it's not bad that it's okay. And she wouldn't do it.

[00:33:34] Stephanie: She did this. Yeah, no, I've known a lot of people, beca, and more than likely it is somebody there who is protecting you for whatever reason. And they have probably been protecting you for very long time.

[00:33:48] Andrea Smith: Cause I just asked her, I was like, is this your job? I'm asking you bless my house. This is what you're supposed to do, but she

[00:33:55] Stephanie: wouldn't. No, because you wanted her to bless it to, with the intent of [00:34:00] getting rid of it was there. yeah. And it

[00:34:03] Andrea Smith: was protecting me. Cause you know you talk about being Jewish and some of the things that I've been brought you buy a new house, you have it you put the MAOS on, you have it blessed, you move in that kind of thing.

[00:34:15] Andrea Smith: I don't have MAOS on every door post. I just don't, I'm not exactly very compliant you in that department, but at the best I can and it's just every now and then this, whatever it is just decides to bug us and I've asked my son, I was like, do you see it? Do you know who it is? Is it family? And it gets upset and it's I'm not trying to be mean.

[00:34:35] Andrea Smith: I'm just trying to figure it out to make sure that I'm not losing my mind because it's very crazy when you're trying to do things and you have things put and it disappears. You feel like you're losing your mind and Who in your family that passed that used to like to play jokes

[00:34:54] Andrea Smith: was not my dad.

[00:34:55] Andrea Smith: That's for sure.

[00:34:56] Stephanie: I know uncle cousin. The only other person I can think of that passed [00:35:00] away. I honestly did not know him that well. I had a cousin that died of leukemia. I must have been in elementary school. But was he a joker? Do he like to play pranks?

[00:35:11] Andrea Smith: I didn't really know him that well. I was pretty young.

[00:35:13] Paul G Newton: Remember you also said that it could be somebody she picked up somewhere or somebody just Hey, it could be that I like her. She's really cute. I'm gonna hang

[00:35:21] Stephanie: out. It could be an ancestor she's never

[00:35:24] Andrea Smith: met because I don't know my father's side of the families when his biological side of the family.

[00:35:29] Andrea Smith: So I thought who knows? It's one of those but

[00:35:31] Paul G Newton: I run 'em every, I run everything off. I don't believe that what we lost that one day that was mine. Oh yeah. I believe that was taken I,

[00:35:41] Stephanie: someone for a reason, I really do that person

[00:35:45] Paul G Newton: takes people's stuff

[00:35:48] Andrea Smith: constantly. Now my son has a problem with taking things and he doesn't return him and that's a whole other issue, but Paul

[00:35:54] Stephanie: need, I think

[00:35:54] Paul G Newton: it I think he's got it.

[00:35:56] Stephanie: Paul

[00:35:56] Andrea Smith: had to have some B12 shots and we had a needle sitting on my [00:36:00] table and we're gonna give him the shot in the morning.

[00:36:03] Stephanie: And he wanted his shots

[00:36:04] Paul G Newton: and he wasn't getting them because

[00:36:05] Stephanie: you didn't have any

[00:36:06] Andrea Smith: needles, but it turns his room upside down. If he used it

[00:36:11] Stephanie: and

[00:36:11] Paul G Newton: threw it away, you would never know.

[00:36:14] Andrea Smith: That kid doesn't take out the trash.

[00:36:15] Andrea Smith: He does the rest of them.

[00:36:16] Stephanie: I would've found out, but he's hiding it from

[00:36:17] Paul G Newton: me cuz I scare the living shit outta all of them. Ah, and I do. And I

[00:36:22] Stephanie: do

[00:36:23] Andrea Smith: well, you do it lovingly. Cause

[00:36:25] Paul G Newton: they're not, there's no reason for them to be scared of me. I'm just,

[00:36:28] Stephanie: you're a dad figure.

[00:36:29] Paul G Newton: So yeah. Yeah. So they're afraid of me because of father issues, whatever that I'm not a dad, but it doesn't matter.

[00:36:36] Paul G Newton: But I promise you that's where it went. I don't think so. And I think

[00:36:42] Andrea Smith: this is where we disagree on this.

[00:36:45] Stephanie: I don't chances are the shot was that needle was removed by your ghost. I doubt that. Very, I always say a very large probably has anything else yours ever come up missing? No. [00:37:00]

[00:37:00] Andrea Smith: No, not at not at my house.

[00:37:02] Andrea Smith: No. I have stuff every now. And something

[00:37:04] Stephanie: did something happen between you and her son where he thought that would be a good idea or he thought he would, he's just a touch selfish. That's all,

[00:37:15] Andrea Smith: he's 17 year old selfish that kind of teenagers are, but he was, oh no, I

[00:37:20] Stephanie: know exactly. I, and I, he didn't do it.

[00:37:24] Stephanie: I don't know.

[00:37:25] Andrea Smith: I will agree to disagree, but all I can say is if it eventually things that are missing. Yeah.

[00:37:30] Paul G Newton: If you said you're a ghost was if I was losing socks at your house, then I might be more compliant. I'm

[00:37:37] Stephanie: disagreeing with you. Why me? Hell would a ghost. Want your damn, I don't know, sock.

[00:37:42] Paul G Newton: Somebody's taking my socks. I get, I go fake my socks from. From my feet to the white basket, to the washer, to the dryer, to the blue basket, and then I'm missing socks. They have no chance of going anywhere else. They're not anywhere else I'm tell to other stuff

[00:37:58] Stephanie: is gone. That's [00:38:00] your dog demo? Where in God's green earth are my socks

[00:38:07] Stephanie: going?

[00:38:07] Stephanie: It goes to the microwave. I want my

[00:38:09] Paul G Newton: socks. You bring

[00:38:10] Stephanie: them back. You got you have a Demonn, you have a, my God socks. Okay. A dryer Demonn

[00:38:16] Andrea Smith: is what I call 'em. This person in my house likes to take blue dye.

[00:38:21] Stephanie: That's the only thing

[00:38:21] Paul G Newton: I've ever lost

[00:38:23] Stephanie: is

[00:38:23] Andrea Smith: socks. Blue dye my glasses.

[00:38:27] Stephanie: He's taking things that are as important.

[00:38:29] Stephanie: He took

[00:38:29] Andrea Smith: my nice mascara. He needs to give that back. That

[00:38:32] Stephanie: was probably Emily. But you see what I'm saying? He's taking things that are important to people.

[00:38:36] Andrea Smith: True. And I just don't let it, I try not to get too upset I try to laugh it off and I try to like, I am not

[00:38:43] Paul G Newton: laughing about my socks. I

[00:38:45] Stephanie: know you're not, I want my socks.

[00:38:47] Andrea Smith: We'll get you socks. Okay. Always buy socks. All right. Another question, Melissa

[00:38:52] Stephanie: has Nope. Take

[00:38:54] Paul G Newton: my socks. God damnit leave my fucking socks out of this. Take something I don't need. I need my socks. [00:39:00] Paul, what? Paul? It's not all about you. Josh. Kelly. Andrea, I just

[00:39:06] Andrea Smith: want socks. So another question was, she's heard this term is there such a thing as white magic and dark magic?

[00:39:17] Andrea Smith: And what's the difference?

[00:39:18] Stephanie: Okay. Here's the difference in white magic? Dark magic. She's racist. Okay. First of all, you gotta know how spell works. The spell works pretty much like a prayer. It's pretty much built the same. If you are a religious witch, per se, you'll have a DV that you are saying, Hey, I'm here then you have your intent or what you're wanting to happen in the body of the spell.

[00:39:46] Stephanie: And then of course you have your ending. Okay. Okay. Same thing with a prayer, God intent ending. Amen. Which is actually on. And because it actually comes from Egypt, but that's [00:40:00] another story. That's one of those. This is that's one of those podcasts that you and I are gonna have a discussion on. Okay. Cause is the stuff that's really fascinating.

[00:40:09] Stephanie: But so you're, so when you pray, when you're really down on your hands and knees and you're praying, okay. Whether you're desperate, is this something you just really want whatever it is, you're putting intent, you're putting energy into that intent or into that wish or into what you're wanting.

[00:40:32] Stephanie: Okay. Okay. This is where I was talking about when we can exchange energy between humans. We certainly can with spirits and gods. Okay. And it was a universe because the universe itself is composed of positive and negative energy. Okay. So

[00:40:53] Andrea Smith: makes

[00:40:53] Stephanie: sense. So while you are putting your intent out there to the universe, the gods too, [00:41:00] an ancestor to whoever of the hell you want to put it out to do it to a tree, please love it.

[00:41:03] Stephanie: They're very sentient What's gonna happen. You're releasing that. Okay. And you keep doing it all of a sudden, boom. One day it happens like clockwork. What you want now, I'm not gonna say it's gonna happen tomorrow after you do the spell, it could, but it could take you a couple of years.

[00:41:27] Stephanie: Before I ever got pregnant with my daughter, I kept praying. I had moved in with my husband. We were living in sin, as they say I kept praying for a house and doing spell work for a house. And this house was to be a fixer effort, cheaper than rent and under refinanced. Okay. That's pretty damn specific.

[00:41:57] Stephanie: And I wanted it to [00:42:00] be big enough. For myself, my husband my future husband my future stepson and another child, if my husband and I should have one I'm doing this prayer spells prayers I visit mixture. I did it for about oh six months and we got married month and a half after I get married.

[00:42:26] Stephanie: Boom, I get pregnant. And I'm still doing these spells and prayers. Sarah gets to be a year and a half old. My mom's friend and my mom had never talked to her friend about this. She didn't know she had rental properties. And anyway, so her friend came over to my mom's house and said, Hey, I need your help because we were real estate appraisers at the time.

[00:42:56] Stephanie: She says, I need your help. My mom's going way you need my help with, she says, I [00:43:00] have a rent house and somebody's offered to buy it from me. So I'm wanting to know, and I've offered to fi owner finance it. I'm wanting to know if he's offering me you know what it's worth. Okay. Mom goes well, okay. Mom's looking at everything and then next thing I know, and I've heard their conversation.

[00:43:23] Stephanie: I didn't think anything of it. And I I had to go pick up my daughter, say, mom, I'm gonna go get Sarah. I'm go store. Talk to you later. I get home about an hour and a half later. And start to get dinner and boom, there goes my phone. And I instantly I could, I didn't have to have call waiting or call her ID, always knew he was calling.

[00:43:46] Stephanie: So I picked up the phone. Hello, mom, what do you want? And she says I just got you a house. Oh, I said, what? I just got you a house. I said, you gotta be kidding me. And she said, no. She [00:44:00] said she told me the price. She told me how much you'd be per month. How big it was, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[00:44:11] Stephanie: And she says she'll owner finance it. Oh, nice. Oh yeah. So guess what I got a house. I was owner financed big enough to have myself, my husband, my stepson, and my daughter in the house and raise the kids in proper manner. It was a fixer upper, not bad, but it was a fixer. and the mortgage payment was around a hundred dollars, 120 hundred, hundred $25, less than rent per month, including tax and insurance.

[00:44:48] Stephanie: Wow.

[00:44:48] Andrea Smith: So it happens. Okay. So like a person, so what, how do I word this? What stops a person [00:45:00] from just like constantly using magic to get whatever they want?

[00:45:04] Stephanie: It doesn't well, okay. Like I said, it doesn't always happen overnight. Okay. And okay. By a hundred million here, this, hold on. I think let's say I have a certain lesson to learn in life period.

[00:45:20] Stephanie: Okay. I, first of all, I believe in reincarnation, you can't learn. Every lesson, you need to learn as a soul to move on to the next plane. This is my, these are my thoughts. Move on to the next plane until you can be as perfect as you possibly can be, which means you will learn all the lessons you will, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[00:45:45] Stephanie: You'll know how handle those lessons. It's a, it's kinda like the next plane is a we're ascend we're ascending, we're creating something more beautiful where we are. We know [00:46:00] what we can or can't do. And we, and we're not resentful over it because we know what the consequences are.

[00:46:07] Stephanie: You see what I'm saying? You see

[00:46:09] Andrea Smith: where I'm going with it. Yeah, I do. I just I'm thinking like, okay, just an average. I don't know how to put this. Not a very nice person thinks, oh, I'm gonna do what I apologize. I'm getting rude here. I'm gonna put these things together and I'm gonna wish for a million dollars and I'm gonna wish for how do we keep, how does that work?

[00:46:30] Andrea Smith: The universe.

[00:46:31] Stephanie: Okay. So if that person's meant, and so with having a lesson to learn, yeah, they may win a hundred million dollars and then they may lose it all within a month and then be totally that's usually what

[00:46:47] Paul G Newton: happens actually, when somebody wins a lottery

[00:46:51] Stephanie: or you see these people who live, what you think they're living this magnificent, perfect life.

[00:46:58] Stephanie: They're born with a silver spoon [00:47:00] in their mouth. They've never had to do anything to get what they wanted. And yet then this person commit suicide because they're unhappy.

[00:47:11] Andrea Smith: Yeah, I guess what I'm thinking is if people have the ability to know that they can cast a spell, what's keeping them from becoming selfish and casting.

[00:47:23] Stephanie: Nothing's keeping them from being selfish. You know what I mean?

[00:47:26] Andrea Smith: It's if you know that you can have this talent or do this ability to be able to like, acquire all this stuff by do in these spells,

[00:47:33] Stephanie: but once you acquire them, are you happy? Have you really, truly reached the

[00:47:37] Andrea Smith: goal?

[00:47:38] Andrea Smith: That's true that you were going

[00:47:39] Stephanie: for. And okay. So let's say there's a guy. I want him, I wanna marry him, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't really know him, but damn he's hot based all the butterflies, do all the perfect things, and so I think, wow, I can't get his attention so well, I'm going to do a love [00:48:00] spell.

[00:48:00] Stephanie: So I get all the stuff, do the spell, I've put all this energy into it. And the next thing I know this guy's noticed me. He is right up my ass. Every day's kinda weird, not talk to my male friends anymore because he gets it very jealous and either starts fight with him or literally starts fight with me.

[00:48:27] Stephanie: So is it really, he becomes a stalker when I try to break it off, these things truly really happen. I've seen it.

[00:48:35] Andrea Smith: So in order to say you to be able to, cause I guess Melissa's Melissa. I probably shouldn't say her name. She's probably gonna get mad at me. She likes to remain anonymous kind of too late.

[00:48:43] Stephanie: Yeah. I ki I'm not, you're saying it like

[00:48:44] Paul G Newton: 47

[00:48:45] Stephanie: times. I can't help, but it's my kid's

[00:48:47] Andrea Smith: name. Okay. So I guess what I'm trying to say is for you to be able to. Do spells and stuff. You have to be conscientious and [00:49:00] understand that, that if you do something you may not necessarily get the result you want.

[00:49:04] Andrea Smith: I guess new's law

[00:49:05] Stephanie: guess with every action, there is a equal reaction. I was gonna

[00:49:10] Paul G Newton: say, who in the hell's bringing me into this,

[00:49:12] Andrea Smith: I guess for her, she's wondering if it's I hate to use this reference, but like Harry Potter where you more or less are you Harry Potter doing a spell that messes up, you get something else?

[00:49:26] Andrea Smith: She just, cuz you gotta understand everything that we see on the internet and movies and stuff about witchcraft and things like that is very Hollywood emphasize. Yeah, not correctly. But

[00:49:40] Stephanie: it's either

[00:49:41] Paul G Newton: good. Or it's either the witch is a Waverly place where they're all really good witches or yeah.

[00:49:46] Paul G Newton: Surround the

[00:49:46] Stephanie: teenage witch. Personally. I like the witches of Eastwick there,

[00:49:51] Paul G Newton: but I know, but what I'm saying is then you've got the other side of it where the witches are the wicked witch of the west. And let's throw a house on that bitch, [00:50:00] cuz she's fucking mean that's

[00:50:01] Stephanie: what I'm saying. I don't think first of all, nobody is 100% evil, dark, whatever.

[00:50:09] Stephanie: And no one is a hundred percent light happy do period. Fucking morning person,

[00:50:14] Paul G Newton: Dorothy had something to, she needed to have some record pants because we don't know just because that green bitch witch was, she was mean doesn't mean her sister, the one that the other one was bad. She could have been a good witch.

[00:50:27] Paul G Newton: She could have been like ginger gingerbread for the fricking little munchkins guys running around. She got squashed and yet the bitch threw a house on her. It's do we even know if she deserves to have a house thrown on her? Do we

[00:50:39] Stephanie: really know? Yeah. But you had, Hey. Yeah. Has the wee ones going around celebrating and singing ding dons, which is dead.

[00:50:49] Paul G Newton: Yeah. But that may be just because they owed her

[00:50:51] Stephanie: money. Oh my

[00:50:52] Andrea Smith: gosh. I guess what her question is she wants to know, is there like a moral code? [00:51:00]

[00:51:00] Stephanie: You set yours dead. It's okay. Cause she's

[00:51:03] Andrea Smith: like she, cuz seriously you set

[00:51:05] Stephanie: your own moral code, does she? Okay. So like in Wicca they go by this tenant, which is not really a true tenant as there's a whole nother story behind it that has to do with Allister Crowley.

[00:51:18] Stephanie: There's a tenant, it's the one

[00:51:19] Paul G Newton: that Oddy was singing about

[00:51:22] Stephanie: no master don't. Oh, probably. But anyway, I'm just asking. So there's a tenant in Wicca that said Somo be and no harm done. Okay. Okay. I'm doing a spell because I need a job. I need money. I need to put food on table. You pay my bills, I gotta do this.

[00:51:48] Stephanie: I gotta do that. Whatever. So

[00:51:49] Andrea Smith: you can't cut a spell for someone who cuts you off in traffic. And you're just mad.

[00:51:52] Stephanie: Probably not. You probably shouldn't do that, but let's say I'm that bitch. Let's say I'm let's say I'm wanting this [00:52:00] job. I'm wanting it bad. I need it bad beside you spell. If I, for whatever reason, decide to fit in there and no harm will come to anyone.

[00:52:11] Stephanie: See when I was, but then I don't get the job. Yeah. And the reason I don't get the job is cuz there's somebody standing over there in the corner who may be more poor or whatever, or maybe for whatever reason they're supposed to have that job. So what keeps you,

[00:52:30] Paul G Newton: what about like whenever I was like single and hadn't had any in a while because I'd been in a Loveless bullshit marriage for 20 years and it's like, all I need is a hand job.

[00:52:41] Paul G Newton: It's all I need. And yet I don't give one. Why well is that a problem? So

[00:52:47] Stephanie: probably number one, you didn't go out and look for it. because because in all

[00:52:52] Paul G Newton: honesty I did get all my stuff though. That's the thing can say, I didn't do that. He

[00:52:58] Stephanie: put the wrong spell out

[00:52:59] Andrea Smith: there. I [00:53:00] don't know

[00:53:00] Stephanie: the wrong, but the wrong spell out, but here's the deal.

[00:53:02] Stephanie: But I,

[00:53:03] Paul G Newton: but BU is said, as soon as my divorce popped, I was getting hand jobs. So whatever he true. He had a barrier is that, but I didn't do a

[00:53:12] Paul G Newton: spell. He had your own. I just went said, Hey, you wanna touch this? no, I didn't say that.

[00:53:21] Stephanie: All I can think of is all I can think of is what's his say thing.

[00:53:25] Stephanie: Yeah. Okay. Touch this.

[00:53:31] Stephanie: So

[00:53:32] Andrea Smith: to learn these spells, how do you not have some big book where all of us could look into and be like, I want to have a great day at work. I'll do this. Is there I guess Mike, is it like Harry Potter where you go to school or is it like a book that

[00:53:49] Stephanie: you can, if you work in a

[00:53:50] Paul G Newton: place full men, just wear a very low cut blouse and you will have a great day

[00:53:56] Stephanie: at work.

[00:53:57] Stephanie: Oh yeah. With they groping you or [00:54:00] you don't want you, they're not groping you, but they'll be like, oh,

[00:54:03] Paul G Newton: are you, how are you? You're I appreciate you coming into work today.

[00:54:07] Stephanie: Like the body blue, my face and my eyes. You're looking at my tits. No, thank you.

[00:54:12] Paul G Newton: You get your way. What

[00:54:14] Stephanie: the hell?

[00:54:15] Stephanie: Yeah. Yeah. Until you, until you figure out that, oh, I got a new boss and she's female that ain't gonna work. Oh yeah. That

[00:54:22] Paul G Newton: sucks. You never know. She might be into that.

[00:54:26] Stephanie: I don't, it's a new age,

[00:54:27] Paul G Newton: man. It's a new age. You can't undercut people just because,

[00:54:32] Stephanie: oh my gosh. The is you put this intent out there.

[00:54:36] Stephanie: If it is really not meant for you are either not gonna get it or if you do get it, you fucking regret it. Like I said, regret, do a love spell, and you end up with. A stalker,

[00:54:51] Paul G Newton: I guess you could regret a hand job if it was forced upon you by a guy named bill. Oh

[00:54:55] Stephanie: my God. Stop. I don't want that. No, thank you.

[00:54:58] Stephanie: I I would hope you [00:55:00] would cold cock the guy Hey,

[00:55:02] Paul G Newton: it would be cold because it would not be, I was like, no, it would be very cold. Cuz there wouldn't be any blood run to that thing at all. Oh my

[00:55:09] Stephanie: God. What?

[00:55:11] Paul G Newton: It could be cold. It's all say at cold cock, you said cold cock. The guy will

[00:55:16] Stephanie: be cold.

[00:55:16] Stephanie: First of all, Paul, you're not a narcissist.

[00:55:24] Stephanie: The narcissist wouldn't yeah, I got it. And they say, oh no, you can get the fuck

[00:55:30] Paul G Newton: outta here. Oh, people call me narcissist all the time. I don't understand why people call me a narciss. They do call you that

[00:55:37] Stephanie: too. Uh, Because they really don't know what a fucking narcissist to be true.

[00:55:42] Stephanie: I agree with that. Or they see certain traits in you and you can be very assertive and they think all narcissists NA are over or all assertive people are narcissist is out. It's not true. Their logic is backwards. Yeah. Their logic is backwards. Not all assertive people are [00:56:00] NA narciss.

[00:56:00] Stephanie: Now the one thing I will say this though, about you oh, you totally changed after you got a divorce.

[00:56:08] Paul G Newton: I was I was getting laid

[00:56:09] Stephanie: No, it wasn't that you were out first. Number one, you went outdiscover yourself. Number two, you started looking for things that made you happy.

[00:56:23] Stephanie: You hadn't been happy in years. Oh God. No. And it showed.

[00:56:28] Paul G Newton: All I wanted to there was times I was like if she slip, if she her car slips on the ice and runs into the side of the bridge and she dies. Yeah, but now what I'm going to do, I'm count that wouldn't be so bad to three and I'm gonna snap my fingers and you're gonna hu.

[00:56:41] Stephanie: So enter, I can talk and my podcast doesn't go on for two hours. It's

[00:56:45] Paul G Newton: only been going on for like snap. It's only been going on for one hour and one minute, Jesus Christ. What he, what has he got to do with this?

[00:56:57] Stephanie: I knows. He's probably sitting there shaking his head. He saying, you talk, [00:57:00] what shut I up talking.

[00:57:01] Stephanie: But so if it's not destined for you to, or it doesn't help you learn a lesson in life your skull's probably not gonna work well, free will, like I said,

[00:57:14] Paul G Newton: free will has a lot to do with it too. You can't infringe on someone else's free. Will, can

[00:57:18] Stephanie: you yeah, you can. Oh, yeah, you can, you can't

[00:57:23] Paul G Newton: force someone to do

[00:57:24] Stephanie: something.

[00:57:25] Stephanie: Oh yeah, you can.

[00:57:28] Andrea Smith: But that sounds dangerous, cuz just if that's truly, it is the case, it is very dangerous. You have to realize what you're messing with and make sure that you could understand the consequences of what

[00:57:40] Stephanie: you're doing. A lot of times when people do that or when we just do that and they are really delving into the dark arts and really using the negative energy unless they really shield themselves and know how to you'll [00:58:00] end up every time you do spell you have a residual energy sticking around.

[00:58:05] Stephanie: OK. So if it's a good spell, you kinda want that residual energy kinda sticking around because you're gonna attract. What you're putting out there, is the idea, same thing with negative magic or energy.

[00:58:20] Andrea Smith: So where's this because that's magic at how do you learn it? Are you taught it? Are you mentored

[00:58:26] Stephanie: it?

[00:58:26] Paul G Newton: I'm still having trouble with it because putting much of chemicals together and having intent doesn't mean, I just don't see

[00:58:33] Stephanie: how it works. Okay. So for like me I grew up seeing spirits. God's whatever the hell you want me to call him. Okay. I still see him. And on top of that, when my grandmother died my, one of my cousins came up to me who was older.

[00:58:51] Stephanie: She was over 18. I was 11. We've been living with my grandmother for about four years. She had cancer. That's what she died from. And next [00:59:00] thing I know we're having Sunday dinner and my aunt like we did every Sunday and one of my cousins had come over and she was about, oh gosh, I guess she was about 21.

[00:59:12] Stephanie: She's about 10 years older than I was she's 21, 22 already had kids. And she looked at me and she says because since aunt Chloe died, you're the new family witch. Oh, I'm like, what? You sure? They said witch or bitch? No witch. You

[00:59:29] Paul G Newton: could qualify for either what?

[00:59:31] Stephanie: Oh yeah, I was. Yeah.

[00:59:33] Stephanie: I was was born both, so

[00:59:37] Paul G Newton: this is how long we've known each other. I can say something like that. Yeah. She doesn't get mad. She's you're right.

[00:59:41] Stephanie: In the years of what's really said is I've actually graduated to CU sometimes. I It's really out there. But so I those really set me back a little bit because I'd already been studying ancient religion because when we moved here, okay.

[00:59:57] Stephanie: My mother came from a long line of [01:00:00] Protestant children on my dad's side. They were Jewish. Not that he would confess to that. But my fam my family on my dad's side, didn't go to church. So he'll go to church with his friends and they were all Catholic. Yeah. And dad. Really never.

[01:00:22] Stephanie: And I don't know why, but he never really bought into religion per se. It doesn't believe doesn't mean that he didn't believe in a higher power or a creator. He just didn't know who it was or what to believe. And so anyway, so my parents, whether right or wrong, decided to not raise me in church especially my dad coming from a Jewish heritage and gypsy heritage.

[01:00:51] Stephanie: And of course, all gypsies are pagans are originally started out as PAs and I've eventually adopted for the most [01:01:00] part Christianity. So my mom in her infinite wisdom news me to Arkansas, the tender age of seven. And this is early seventies and everybody Wednesday, Sunday morning, Sunday, evening church period, like clock awkward, you knew and I'd already seen no, I had not seen a step further wise yet.

[01:01:26] Stephanie: I don't think it'd come out yet. But that's exactly what it was like you did not Ms. Church. If you tried to call a friend on Wednesday Uhuh, they weren't home. They were at church. Yeah. Okay. And me and being the curious child that I was I started studying ancient religions, looking for God because I would go to church with my friends and I would turn around, ask the Reverend preacher, whoever you wanna call 'em Hey blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[01:01:55] Stephanie: Why do I see spirits? Why do I I didn't say it [01:02:00] that way. I didn't say why do I see

[01:02:01] Paul G Newton: invisible people stop eating those mushrooms that you find on

[01:02:04] Stephanie: the Saturday road? Yeah. Yeah. And I would ask them questions like this, and they're like I don't know why I said it's not in the Bible.

[01:02:11] Stephanie: No. Why do I know things before they're going to have it maybe had

[01:02:16] Paul G Newton: premonitions, right? Huh. I've had premonitions, right?

[01:02:21] Stephanie: Yeah. A lot of people have premonitions. My last premonition

[01:02:24] Paul G Newton: I had was I was out in Oklahoma Plains and a really big house with a pool. And I'm flipping burgers on a stovetop or not a stovetop, but a barbecue grill.

[01:02:42] Paul G Newton: And There's kids running around that aren't mine, but I don't care. And there's this blackhead chick and a one piece she's having a great time and she's, Suning herself with her sunglasses on and a big old hat. [01:03:00] And we're all playing by the pool. And that was the premonition I had. so Andrew, you're gonna have to buy a pool.

[01:03:10] Stephanie: good Lord. that's not how premonitions work, Paul. I know. I've always called, I've always called my premonitions, the known cuz I didn't know what else to call 'em at the time, but no ones. No, the knowing. Oh I was like, I just knew things I knew concrete statues with

[01:03:27] Paul G Newton: hats. That's what I was thinking.

[01:03:29] Paul G Newton: You were saying those concrete statues with hats noms?

[01:03:33] Stephanie: No, no. K N O w I N G.

[01:03:40] Paul G Newton: I know. I'm just playing. Okay.

[01:03:42] Stephanie: So I like annoying you. It's fun. I know and you're just so delightful doing it. Yes. It's wonderful. Here's why till I bring you over a red as asshole they're so D oh,

[01:03:57] Stephanie: Anyway. So I've always had the knowing. I [01:04:00] knew when things were gonna happen. Know, I knew when people would die. That's scary and there's a whole new, there's a whole nother theory. There it is when you're a kid, but you get older, it gets annoying. It's kind okay, you see the light go to it.

[01:04:14] Stephanie: And they don't, they, they don't because they're scared. And so they come through you and you're just like going get through there and they go into the light and they're okay. And they're not every soul passes the light, some pass the light, then they come back. So

[01:04:28] Andrea Smith: it's why not they just like wanting to hang around cuz they love earth so much or they just

[01:04:34] Stephanie: for coffee sometimes it's the coffee sometimes.

[01:04:36] Stephanie: I think if they haven't passed through the li light. And they're very restless or whatever, it's one, they don't, they haven't finished what they have to do or two, they don't realize they're dead or three. They want some fucking answers and they're not willing to go through the, like to get the answers and it really comes down to they're [01:05:00] scared. It makes, because just because makes sense. Just because you die doesn't mean you still don't have feelings.

[01:05:06] Andrea Smith: It's not in beetle just, would they give you a book of the recently deceased and it tells you what you're supposed

[01:05:11] Stephanie: to do?

[01:05:11] Stephanie: Yeah, no. I don't think I'm

[01:05:13] Paul G Newton: not gonna be a social worker for ghosts.

[01:05:15] Stephanie: I don't think that happens we have proven there are other dimensions. Okay. Dimension we shut up Paul, shut up. Stephanie. Paul, I will say it. What anyway. Fuck off Paul. Yeah. I do have two more questions.

[01:05:35] Paul G Newton: Two more quick, happy, hurry up.

[01:05:37] Stephanie: All

[01:05:38] Paul G Newton: right. So how long could she talk

[01:05:40] Stephanie: teasing a long we wanna know,

[01:05:43] Andrea Smith: I know this. She wants to know, and it goes back to that person messing in my house.

[01:05:47] Andrea Smith: Should you just let, 'em keep messing with your house or should you try to figure out what they want? What do you do?

[01:05:54] Stephanie: What do you do about it? Know what this is now, your son's comfortable with it. I can always talking him. [01:06:00] But you have a clear avoid there. You got medium there. He should know if it's not bothering him a little and be bother by it.

[01:06:09] Stephanie: Is this stuff

[01:06:10] Andrea Smith: bothering him? It's not really bothering us, but he really won't talk about it. But for the person who's asking the question she just wanted to know, is it just, I don't know, absent mindedness of me misplacing things, or is this person actually having fun or should we embrace it or should we talk to them or

[01:06:30] Stephanie: klepto cats?

[01:06:31] Stephanie: I First of all, you talk to them and you say, Hey, this is not acceptable. We don't care. We know that you're, we're probably living on your place. We're really trying to take care of it you can't keep doing this or I won't be able to drive to work in order to make money and keep the house up.

[01:06:51] Stephanie: Sometimes you just have to talk to that way.

[01:06:53] Andrea Smith: Cause she's she's very she's saying mom, maybe this house is on an ancient burial land or I'm like, I doubt that. [01:07:00] She's mom, maybe this house used to yellow. No, the house used to belong to somebody. I was like, the land had no, there was a house.

[01:07:06] Andrea Smith: I don't know what the land was prior, but it's just too many watching ghost adventures and learning all their, so the

[01:07:14] Stephanie: old

[01:07:15] Paul G Newton: carnival clown graveyard that no one wants, you

[01:07:19] Stephanie: know about are, oh God Paula hate clowns. oh God, I don't like him either. I hate clowns. I

[01:07:27] Andrea Smith: hate Stephen too. I hated clown. From a very young age

[01:07:32] Stephanie: and I've hated him ever since I first saw him.

[01:07:34] Stephanie: I never even thought

[01:07:35] Andrea Smith: they were funny. I remember as a kid looking at them going, nothing should be that funny. You're fucking scary and

[01:07:43] Stephanie: yeah, no, I didn't. They come from hell and then

[01:07:47] Andrea Smith: watching Stephen. King's it story behind that? Oh God. Yeah, it was on TV. My dad wouldn't let me watch it, my brother. And I wanna watch it anyway.

[01:07:54] Andrea Smith: It's his story, man. I've read some of Stephen King's stuff and let's just say [01:08:00] he's got a good imagination.

[01:08:02] Stephanie: Oh yeah, he does. I love Tommy knockers. I thought that was so good.

[01:08:05] Andrea Smith: We're sitting behind the couch trying to watch it. Now. My dad knew we were there. He said it even later he goes, I figured you get nightmares.

[01:08:11] Andrea Smith: You learn not to watch a damn show. We're watching it. And the clown came on and I thought, okay, that's just totally 100% solidified my hatred of clowns. I cannot stand them. They're fucking creepy. And so

[01:08:24] Stephanie: well, yeah. And those pictures the day I do people. Yeah. That was made real famous during the sixties and seventies and every little girl had 'em up on their wall, my cousin had a set and they were the Mines all those things and but they had these so eyes.

[01:08:43] Stephanie: Oh yeah. And every time I would go to her house I would literally have to either have my back to the damn pictures or have the sheep over my eyes when I try to sleep or I would literally dream about them. And they would to, in me, I [01:09:00] hated them. My

[01:09:01] Andrea Smith: kids dressed up as clowns. When they got older clown mass, just to mess with me for Halloween.

[01:09:07] Andrea Smith: Cause they know I hate clowns, but I don't know the spirits at, of our house or how do you know to you just open up a conversation with him? Hey, Mr. Ghost to the Braco wave. I appreciate you having fun with me, but can you tailor it? G

[01:09:21] Stephanie: T yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Is what you do. You talk to them you say G T F O what.

[01:09:32] Paul G Newton: It's millennial speak. Forget the

[01:09:33] Stephanie: fuck out. No. Oh, geez. No, you don't do that because if it's

[01:09:37] Andrea Smith: my, whoever it is, whatever it is, it's not hurting anything. It's just making me feel like I'm going, it's feel like I'm going insane. Is there

[01:09:45] Stephanie: annoying? It's not no you want to tell em, say, Hey, I understand you wanna play pranks.

[01:09:53] Stephanie: There are different kind of playing pranks. You could play find a somebody who has a [01:10:00] rubber noise maker, and put underneath couch fiction or something behead fit right there.

[01:10:08] Stephanie: A rubber noise

[01:10:09] Paul G Newton: maker.

[01:10:11] Stephanie: I can't help it. Oh, Jesus Christ. I right now.

[01:10:16] Stephanie: But what they're trying to use, they're trying to get your attention for whatever reason. Cause it, and this isn't exactly it lonely. Yeah. Is it possible? It

[01:10:25] Andrea Smith: could be, but it's I was trying to have this conversation with Paul and he's just like laughing at me, but to have this conversation about this kind of thing with anybody else, and some of our experiences at our house is they think you're freaking

[01:10:35] Paul G Newton: crazy.

[01:10:36] Paul G Newton: Do you have enough cats? Do you have enough cats there that they could just talk to them?

[01:10:41] Stephanie: Here's the problem with most people, first of all, they don't think outside the book. This is true. Okay. They have no idea what the gifts of God are, which one is of prophecy. And how do you do that? You have the knowing as [01:11:00] prophecy there there's several gifts and gift of tongues.

[01:11:10] Stephanie: Okay. And I've always equated gift of tongues as to you don't really change the way you speak. You are just able to in tune to the other side and to individual spirits or to gods or whatever you, they can hear you.

[01:11:27] Andrea Smith: Is there any way of figuring out exactly who it is?

[01:11:30] Stephanie: Yeah, actually there is.

[01:11:31] Stephanie: If they, okay, so if you're entity and this is sounds like a parlor trick you may ask them to do something like you put a jelly bean there on the counter and say, okay Mr. And Mrs. With a ghost, I have this jelly beam here. You to know if you're male or female simple question.

[01:11:56] Stephanie: And to say in the morning, if you're male, the jelly beam will be [01:12:00] gone. And in the morning it say you're female. And see if that works, leave it out there a couple of days,

[01:12:07] Andrea Smith: I've got cats and they'll probably carry that off into, so

[01:12:09] Stephanie: your cats would keep them well you'll have to figure something else out.

[01:12:12] Stephanie: Yeah. Yeah. I know what you mean, but you or if they like to make noises you hear them knocking on the walls or walking across the floor.

[01:12:20] Andrea Smith: Actually. No, none of that stuff, all we've heard is just pretty like things disappearing. And I've asked the,

[01:12:24] Paul G Newton: even if they made noises, you wouldn't know it because you've got cats fighting everywhere.

[01:12:29] Paul G Newton: There're always, there's always some cat fighting with another cat, 24 7

[01:12:34] Stephanie: Do you ever have your cat ever look at part of the room that's completely empty and his at it?

[01:12:43] Andrea Smith: Yes, actually. Yeah. I just figured they were just being cats.

[01:12:46] Stephanie: No, they're seeing the ghost. They're seeing the spirit.

[01:12:50] Stephanie: See ginger,

[01:12:50] Paul G Newton: never my cat ginger, never, ever did that.

[01:12:55] Stephanie: Never because you don't have a ghost,

[01:12:56] Paul G Newton: Because I run 'em off.

[01:12:59] Andrea Smith: It's funny [01:13:00] because I've had him like arch their back, like something outta hall, like the Halloween cat that you see always around the Halloween time. And they would just his and scurry off.

[01:13:07] Andrea Smith: And I'll be like, what the hell's his problem? The kids are

[01:13:10] Stephanie: like, Ooh. Yeah, no they're seeing a spirit. I see him every night. And I'll see him during the day too, not as often, but I used to see them more, less medication for that.

[01:13:20] Paul G Newton: Now

[01:13:21] Stephanie: shut up. Paul . I used to see more as like black shadows kind of something in my peripheral vision and black shadow.

[01:13:28] Stephanie: Now those black shadows are in color. They look like humans. And they're sitting next to me. I still cannot look at 'em straight on. Like I used to be able to when I was little. Say gets kinda weird now

[01:13:47] Andrea Smith: say. you're open to this and you wanna be able to see some of this stuff.

[01:13:54] Andrea Smith: Can you, and can anyone become a witch? Be taught it? Yeah.

[01:13:57] Stephanie: Everybody can become a [01:14:00] witch. Not everybody can possess the Claires,

[01:14:03] Paul G Newton: but would I be a warlock

[01:14:04] Stephanie: instead? No. A warlock is historically someone who is a bad person and has gone against the coing. Oh. Or the community of witches.

[01:14:16] Paul G Newton: So what's a male witch and you can't be a male witch.

[01:14:18] Paul G Newton: Can you?

[01:14:20] Stephanie: Yeah. A witch is a witch. I don't care what your gender is you're a witch, you're a

[01:14:25] Paul G Newton: witch, the original me too movement right there.

[01:14:29] Stephanie: Now it should be L G know most LT,

[01:14:32] Paul G Newton: Q R w. For which

[01:14:34] Stephanie: most of your ancient societies were me too movements. Anyway, I know because they were a matriarchal, yes.

[01:14:42] Stephanie: Society and a patriarchal it's like what we're turning

[01:14:45] Paul G Newton: into now as a matriarchal society. I think they say we're in a patriarchal society, but hell I don't see it as a world run by women as far

[01:14:53] Stephanie: as I'm concerned. That's a whole other podcast. Yeah. That's a whole other podcast, but why be more than happy to [01:15:00] be into, so can and can you like go to the public library and be like I wanna learn how to do spells just check out a

[01:15:05] Stephanie: book.

[01:15:06] Stephanie: How I learned, okay. So I asked my aunt, I said cousin, Linda just said, I was the family witch now. And she says, oh yeah, probably. I said why was somebody gonna tell me? And she says I wasn't gonna talk to you about this, but I just haven't had a chance to, and I didn't talk to your mom about it first.

[01:15:26] Stephanie: I was like, oh, She said, but since Linda spills, the beans let's have a talk. So we had a talk she told me everything she could she was mostly a kitchen with garden, which animals, plants thrived under her care the food, oh my God. You would just die for and she just explained to me she explained to me what my uncles could do and everything oh.

[01:15:55] Stephanie: The way they decided that I was gonna be the next family, which after my [01:16:00] grandmother died was because of my premonitions. And I would always sit there and I'd talk about 'em cuz they'd come outta the blue. And he just came in and was like, oh, by the way da. And I'd spit 'em out until I finally learned that, not all people understand that.

[01:16:16] Stephanie: See I never, nobody in my family ever talks to me about this. Until after my grandmother died and my husband spilled the beans. Okay. Now my mom would talk about intuition, ESB, blah, blah, blah. I would say things that my mom would just look at me, like you tell on her face. It's like, how the fuck did you know that?

[01:16:35] Stephanie: Seriously,

[01:16:37] Paul G Newton: so Stephanie, I got a question. So if someone just real quickly, cuz we're gonna, we're coming to the end here if someone wanted to do that and be Christian as well, you said there was some at the very beginning that some people could be Christian and still be witches.

[01:16:55] Paul G Newton: Oh, very much. So how does that not, how does that not [01:17:00] go against Christianity?

[01:17:02] Stephanie: Look at Psalms. Okay. Psalms of course are songs. Which book is that in? Book of Psalms that is old Testament.

[01:17:15] Stephanie: so look at the book of Psalms. Okay. There's a song that was created out of the book of Psalms. Songs is a very okay. So something we haven't gotten really into is frequencies, music, frequencies type thing, and they're chanting, blah, blah, blah. People like certain music. Yeah.

[01:17:35] Stephanie: Certain frequencies. Do certain things, do the soccers in your body or do things to your body and we can help you along your way on your journey in life, whatever it might be. That's why a lot of people, when they listen to music, it listen their favorite songs, all of a sudden they've to, I'm gonna myself to, or go postal to, I am the happiest fucking person on the world right now.

[01:17:56] Paul G Newton: So how does that relate to Christianity[01:18:00]

[01:18:02] Stephanie: are songs. okay. Yes. They all have a frequency to them. Okay. And I have found that some, not all, but some C which is, who are Christians. Yeah. If they use Psalms especially some of the who do practitioners. Okay. The, they can't hit. Sure. Okay. So you have that rhythm, you have that frequency and that plays, I think that plays a very important is a very important vehicle of getting your intended energy or your energy with

[01:18:46] Paul G Newton: intent.

[01:18:46] Paul G Newton: But how is that related to Chris Christianity being a witch? I don't understand.

[01:18:53] Stephanie: Okay.

[01:18:56] Paul G Newton: Can you do both and still be a good

[01:18:58] Stephanie: Christian? Yes, you can do both. [01:19:00] Okay. Actually you're better off of you're Jewish. Okay. Seriously, you're better off of you're Jewish. Because you have the Copala the mysticism, the Jewish.

[01:19:13] Paul G Newton: Yeah, they do it's Christianity too, but we're just kinda

[01:19:17] Stephanie: aware Christianity has taken bleach and whitewashed it, but here's something in Christianity they do fair. They have ol yeah. Olstein Joel ol. Yeah. You have the other guy who's on out TV and his wise and he really bright eyes.

[01:19:38] Stephanie: I can't the, his names or anything doesn't matter. But they're all. What are they talking about? Profiting? Praying for what you want. Yeah. Tying.

[01:19:50] Paul G Newton: Yeah. Don't do that. That has nothing to do with anything. Yeah, it does. Yeah. No I for Christianity, it doesn't have anything to do with anything. You don't use Chris [01:20:00] Christianity or any religion to gain fortune.

[01:20:04] Paul G Newton: That's not what

[01:20:05] Stephanie: you're not that's. Is that not what people is that? Not what people pray

[01:20:08] Paul G Newton: for? They can pray for it all they want, but that's not what, that's not what a true

[01:20:13] Stephanie: religions about. And some, and don't some of them actually

[01:20:15] Paul G Newton: That remains to be seen.

[01:20:20] Stephanie: Paul. Wow. Think about what you're saying.

[01:20:24] Stephanie: Nothing is absolute. There are no absolute. I know you're right about that. And everything is probable and yes, you have Christian witches and yes, you have Christians who don't really mean to probably, or don't think that they're performing magic, but they perform magic. Anytime that when they, I can see what saying, you're saying God God will make sure they get what they deserve.

[01:20:48] Paul G Newton: I can see what you're saying. If you pray to God and ask God in a Christian way to do it is then it's a, it's akin to mysticism because it is a [01:21:00] mystical thing that

[01:21:00] Stephanie: happens. It mystic. Yeah, it is

[01:21:02] Paul G Newton: miss. I know, but you can't just tell that to somebody who's a practicing Christian. They'll lose their shit and stab you in the face.

[01:21:09] Paul G Newton: Okay. So you have to be more gentle,

[01:21:12] Stephanie: believing,

[01:21:13] Paul G Newton: gotta be a little more

[01:21:14] Stephanie: gentle. They're believing in a God who people say, or Moses said, you can look upon them or you burn up or they drastically change your appearance. Yeah. The hand you play UHS that have all this stuff written on them. They have chosen a God who has chosen the Jews who has a history in Canan as war God.

[01:21:41] Stephanie: And yet the Jews come from baby. All, anything is possible. I'm just saying,

[01:21:48] Paul G Newton: so if anybody has any more questions I get, we're gonna end this real quick. So if anybody has any questions that you want to propose to Stephanie, or if you want to just reach out and tell her she's full of shit, or [01:22:00] you do agree with her or to complain about me, which is fine.

[01:22:03] Paul G Newton: Cause everybody does you could send an email to Paul G. Paul Jean newton.com. That's Paul G. Paul Jean newton.com. And you can donate whatever you want. If you want to. To me and I will take it gracefully unless it's a pile of shit. And then I'll throw it back at you whatever. So I'm if we believe the atheists were all born from apes and what apes like to do, they like to throw shit out of their cages.

[01:22:33] Paul G Newton: That's not true. I'm teasing. It's not true. I'm teasing. I know. But anyway was wrong.

[01:22:38] Andrea Smith: Thank you for answering some of the questions that we I had and my kiddo had, cuz I try to,

[01:22:44] Stephanie: oh, not a problem. Like I said when I said before the podcast we're gonna go have lunch. We're go have fun.

[01:22:51] Stephanie: I'm not sure we're gonna take Paul with us though. Oh my God. that sounds

[01:22:55] Paul G Newton: good. There is no stories that she could share with you that I haven't already told [01:23:00] you.

[01:23:00] Stephanie: This is probably true. Yeah. I'm

[01:23:02] Paul G Newton: that's probably true. Yeah. I mean I'm open and honest. A hundred percent, a hundred thousand percent. I don't care.

[01:23:08] Paul G Newton: There's no secrets for me. You wanna know something

[01:23:11] Stephanie: out that there really or not. You, yeah, you yeah. You share a lot too much. Usually sometimes too much. Yeah. Too much. Anyone else I got divorced. You settled down. I'm really glad you settle down. So dating a knife woman, because now I don't have to hear all the stuff.

[01:23:28] Stephanie: See, I would call her fucking God. I would

[01:23:31] Paul G Newton: call her and tell her about peg legs and wild eyes and roller Derby chicks and all sorts of stuff. She's what the fuck is wrong with you,

[01:23:40] Stephanie: Paul? Yeah. Yeah. I had a good time though. Not what do I had a good time? Anyway, both of you could not know.

[01:23:48] Stephanie: Wonderful evening. I've had. So give me some more questions, send me some emails. I don't care. And I I'm not gonna give

[01:23:55] Paul G Newton: you your, I'm not gonna give your email out unless you want

[01:23:57] Stephanie: to. Let's not there right now. Let's see if [01:24:00] somebody actually

[01:24:01] Paul G Newton: send us something, send it to Paul G. Paul G newton.com.

[01:24:05] Paul G Newton: Paul G. Paul G newton.com. If you go to our link for the most part and let you'll see that there's a donate button down there too, cuz it would be nice for me to recruit the almost $900. It costs me to buy for these microphones to get this program on the air, which I'm actually happy to do because I like it.

[01:24:25] Paul G Newton: It doesn't bother me, but if you wanna help me pay it for 'em, that'd be okay. You could send me some money. I'll take it or give us a

[01:24:33] Stephanie: pizza, right?

[01:24:34] Paul G Newton: Or buy the girls' lunch. Tell Paul the fuck off because that's what they would want. Or at least one of 'em would want. I think Andrea might actually want me to be there.

[01:24:43] Paul G Newton: But Stephanie, she is a witch and a you.

[01:24:50] Stephanie: Hello, Stephanie. I'm here. I

[01:24:53] Paul G Newton: figured she'd take the opportunity to yell bitch, cuz

[01:24:56] Stephanie: she usually does. Now I'm just a cunt.

[01:24:59] Andrea Smith: [01:25:00] she might put a hex on you, but for anybody out there who has any ideas, questions, things that maybe you might possibly wanna know, please send them our way.

[01:25:08] Stephanie: Yeah. Yeah. Because anything you wanna know because I mean there's no topic, I'm

[01:25:13] Paul G Newton: not telling you length fingers, just so you know, that's private thing.

[01:25:18] Andrea Smith: People let's be open, have a question, send it our way. This is a totally open form or open to anything. It's exactly like things I wanna know.

[01:25:25] Stephanie: It's

[01:25:26] Paul G Newton: what it is.

[01:25:27] Paul G Newton: All right. Bye.

[01:25:29] Stephanie: Bye.